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FBO DAILY ISSUE OF DECEMBER 29, 2007 FBO #2224
MODIFICATION

49 -- AMENDMENT 0001 TO SOLICITATION W9124L-08-T-0012 TO INCLUDE BID SUBMISSION EXTENSION.

Notice Date

12/27/2007
 

Notice Type

Modification
 

NAICS

334519 — Other Measuring and Controlling Device Manufacturing
 

Contracting Office

ACA, Fort Sill, Directorate of Contracting, P.O. Box 33501, Fort Sill, OK 73503-0501
 

ZIP Code

73503-0501
 

Solicitation Number

W9124L08T0012
 

Response Due

1/9/2008
 

Archive Date

3/9/2008
 

Point of Contact

Rosie Logan, 580-442-5204
 

E-Mail Address

ACA, Fort Sill
(annette.logan@us.army.mil)
 

Small Business Set-Aside

Total Small Business
 

Description

Amendment 0001 to Solicitation W9124L-08-T-0012 (Combined Synopsis Soliciatation). The purpose of this amendment is to post questions and answers submitted by offerors in response to the solicitation. This amendment also extends the bid submissi on deadline to January 9, 2008 4:00PM CST. This amendment will remove the Statement Can test the non-self-contained transmissions found in earth moving equipment from the original solicitation. QUESTIONS & ANSWERS Requisition No.: W91S DR73250009 SOLICITATION: W9124L-08-T-0012 DESCRIPTION OF REQUIREMENT: Transmission Dynamometer Question 1: Will this be located at Fort Sill? Answer: Yes Question 2: We are presuming two brakes are required (dual dynamometer l oad unit). This is considered normal for testing transmission units with dual outputs and similar (if not identical) to full axle dynes. a) Are these brakes specified as eddy current? Or something else? b) What is the maximum horsepower required of these brakes? Answer: a) Yes, specified as eddy current. b) 200 Question 3: While most transmission dynes can indeed test hydraulic motors and pumps, what is meant by must test valves and cylinders? Answer: Must t est the valves that work the cylinders. Question 4: (Continued from question 3) We understand these items could be part of a complete hydraulic circuit which must be tested, however how could a dyne test a large cylinder? It appears furthe r definition is warranted. Answer: Research shows many dynes on the market capable of testing large cylinders. How you choose to do it is your decision Question 5: Is the hydraulic power supply (5GPM and 500 psi) also required as part of th e dyne? Answer: Yes, but it should be up to 5000 psi Question 6: How are manual transmissions to be shifted? Answer: All are automatic transmissions Question 7: Is there a requirement to automate the operation of clutch and shif t functions? Answer: All are automatic transmissions Question 8: It is not clear if the dyne must also test complete vehicles as well? Or just the transmissions on said vehicles? [Per the solicitation: Some examples of milita ry vehicles to be tested include but are not limited to: HEMTT- Heavy Expanded Mobility Tactical Truck (M985) HEMTT WRECKER (M984A1) PLS---PALLETIZED LOADING SYSTEM M88A1--RECOVER VEHICLE M1A1--ABRAMS BATTLE TANK HET- HEAVY EQUIPMENT <BR >TRANSPORT TRUCK ( M1070)] This is an important distinction since chassis dynes are not the same as transmission or axle dynes. Answer: No chassis, just transmissions and hydraulic cylinders Question 9: The first Bullet Point under Specifications for Dynamometer: Transmission Dynamometer that will test all military transmissions: Can we change this statement to Transmission Dynamometer that will test all military transmissions currently being repaired and require t esting at Ft. Sill to there associated DMWR which are listed below. Additionally the Dynamometer needs to be reasonably up-gradable to test the list of other Future transmissions listed below (Ft. Sill to finish list) a. Current Repaired Tr ansmissions i. Allison AT 545 DMWR ii. Allison MT 654 NMWR9-2520-594 iii. Allison HT 754 DMWR iv. Allison CLT 750 DMWR v. Allison TX100 DMWR9-2520-254 vi. Allison TX200 DMWR vii. Allison X1100-3B DMWR viii. GD XT14100-5A DMW R ix. GM 3L80 DMWR x. GM 4L80 DMWR b. Future Up-grade Transmissions to be Tested. i. Allison 1000/2000/2400 DMWR ii. Allison MD3070PT DMWR iii. Allison MD3000s DMWR iv. Allison HD4000s DMWR v. Allison CD850-6A NMWR 9-25 20-233 vi. CAT D7155 DMWR 9-2520-523 Answer: No. If your machine will test all military transmissions, then the DMWR and NMWR standards will be met. Question 10: Please supply a complete list of transmissions to be tested? The list should be based on Transmission manufacture and model name. Answer: Reference question 39 for current list of transmission being tested in accordance with the DMWR and NMWR standards. Question 11: Please supply the assocciated test procedure for each of the listed transmissions for testing.? This will be the DMWR or NMWR Answer: Testing procedures will be in accordance with the DMWR and NMWR standards. Question 12: It is important to supply the proper DMWR to test the transmission to. We can mount and operte a transmission but what we want to make sure is that we are supply a dynamometer that is able to test it to th e DMWR requiremetns. Example * M1A1 Tank uses a X1100-3B Cross Drive Transmission. This transmission can be tested using the DMWR 9-2520-276-3. This DMWR requires the transmission dynamometer to have an input AC motor of over 400 H.P. with a 150% overload drive capacity. This system also requires an input torque meter to properly follow the DMWR specifications. This seems to be one of the transmissions you requested althogh in the list it is listed as a recovery vehicle. <BR >Is this one of the transmission you want to test and is this the correct DMWR? * One of the Hummer transmission is the 3L80. An exisitng DMWR-9-2520-581 request a specific inertia weight (20.8 slug ft2) to be used on the output of the tra nsmission along with a large loading power aborber. Will this test procedure be required to be performed.? * It is very important to provide the required test procedure or DMWR for every transmission to be tested. If not, the required test ing perameters must meet the maximum performance specification as requirested in the DMWR. * For tesing the XT1410 there are currently two DMWRs that can be used to test the trasmission New and Old . To performe the different test proce dures requires greatly different dynamometers capabilites. Dyne Requirement Old Test Procedure New Test Procedure Input Motor Power 200 Hp 600 Hp Input Motor Torque 745 lb-ft 1,500 lb-ft Input Motor Speed 2360 rpm 2,400 rpm Input Torque Measurement Yes Yes Output Stall Brake 3,300 lb-ft measured 16,500 lb-ft capable 30,000 lb-ft Output PAU Power None 300 Hp Output PAU Torque None 5,053 lb-ft @ 304rpm Output PAU S peed None 1631 rpm Output Decouple None Yes Output Park Prawl None None Steer Actuator Yes Yes Shift Actuator Yes Yes The same transmission being tested with different test procedures have dramatic diffe rences in the dynamometer equipment ( 200 HP input motor vs. 600+ hp input motor, output stall loads from 3,300 to 30,000 lb-ft). We will need to determine which test procedure you intend to follow prior to sizing the system. Answer: The main drive system should be 200hp capable of at least 580 ftlbs torque at 6000 psi Question 13: Must the transmission dynamometer have optional Oil System supplied in the offer or does Fort Sill have their own system? * Oil Heat E xchanger / Cooling Circuit, Oil Fill System, Oil Reservoir, Oil Reservoir Heater and the measurement of the oil in the system, Temp, Pressure and Flow. Some transmissions have more than just an in and out oil circuit but they have branch circu its that need to be controlled and measured. So the oil system is a critical item when specifying the transmission dynamometer. Answer: Must have its own oil supply system Question 14: Must the transmission dynamometer have Transmission Con trols? * The Control of the transmission Gear Selection, Brakes (hydraulic and service), Steering require monitoring and control. Some transmissions require actuators that measure the amount force applied to the transmission as well as the amount of rotation. Other transmission types have hydraulic operated external valve tower which hydraulically controls the transmission. Why even othe r transmission have electronic controllers to control the shifting of the transmission. Mustang has encountered all of these different Transmission Control requirements. Answer: Yes Question 15: Must the transmission dynamometer have Data Acquisition? * The amount and type of data acquisition depends on the transmissions test procedure. Some test procedures require the measurement of the input torque, brake force, steer angle, oil flow, oil temp, while other requi re up to 9 pressures to be monitored and the flow of multiple oil paths to be monitored. Mustang typically supplies spare channels for future needs in our data acquisition systems. Answer: Yes Question 16: Does the customer syste m have to come with a printer? Answer: Yes Question 17: Does the control system have to prompt the operator through the test? Answer: Yes Question 18: Is there a requirment for a print out at the end of the test wit relevant inf ormation from the test? Answer: Yes Question 19: Must the transmission dynamometer have Output Inertia? * Does the test procedure require inertia loading? If so we add the appropriate amount to meet the customers test procedure req uirements. This again is test procedure dependent whereby some test procedures require it and others do not. Answer: Yes Question 20: You ask for dual dynamometer load units but you do not specify the amount of load they need to suppl y. What is the maximum dynamic output torque and Power required by the output PAUs to meet your testing requirements? * The size of the Output PAU if required at all is dependent on the test procedure. The speed and torque capacity is typ ically outlined in the test procedure. In many cases the amount of output torque is very great at low speeds and less at higher speeds. Again when looking at the different test procedures between some cross drive transmissions some of the tes t procedures let say for the HMPT-500 series of transmissions require a large amount of low speed dynamic output torque (5,600 lb-ft @ 70 rpm) and other larger cross drive transmissions X-1100-3B for the M1 Battle Tank only requires a 1,500 lb- ft of output torque for short periods of time to validate a forced down shift requirement although the output speed is as high 3200 rpm. Answer: Torque output and power required will be based upon the standards of the DMWR and NMWR that i s required to test the transmissions listed in question 39, with the ability to upgrade in the future Question 21: What is the maximum static transmission output torque required to be applied by the output Stall Lock system to meet your tes ting requirements? Answer: Outputs will be based on the DMWR and NMWR standards. Question 22: There is a bullet Can test the non-self-contained transmissions found in earth moving equipment Please list the transmission you are refereing to based on manufacture name and model number.? Answer: Earth moving equipment has been removed from the list. Question 23: Based on your listed transmissions there seems to be In-line and crossdrive requested althogh our expierence with the earth moving equipment may require a drop box or power shift transmission. c. Allision AT, MT, HT are all in-line transmissions although they could potentially be fitted with drop boxes. Do any of these have drop boxes? Do any of the se have ATEC electronicn transmission controllers? d. The earth moving equipment transmission may be in remote mount or direct engine mount can you detai l this for us? Some will have a remote torque converter mounted. So please supply transmission list and mounting configuration along with the test Procedure. e. The Listed Vehicles in the specification primarly use Allison HT and CLT 700 t ransmission along with the Allison X1100 and the XT1410 crossdrive transmissions. What other transmission will you be testing? Answer: Earth moving equipment has been removed from the list. Please refer to Question 39 for current list. Qu estion 24: The word can is used repeatedly. Does this mean the system must be shipped from the factory pre-configured for doing these features, or does this mean the machine shall be able to be updated some time in the future to have these featu res? Answer: Must be shipped from the factory pre-configured and ready to use, with the capability to be upgraded as new transmissions are produced. Question 25: Must be able to test is used. Does this mean the system shall be furnished < BR>with all of the required adapters and supports to connect the listed transmissions to the input drive and to the output load unit(s)? Answer: Yes Question 26: What is the minimum required horsepower desired for driving the transmissi ons? Answer: 200 hp Question 27: What is the required power absorption of each of the two dynamometer load units? Answer: Whatever is required to test our transmissions in accordance with DMWR and NMWR standards. Question 28: Does installation mean placement of the machine into position, or just connection to suitable customer provided power disconnect box? Answer: All equipment must be installed into position and connected to the power box. Question 29: Who is to furnish the materials to connect the machine to the building utilities and how far away from the machine will they be located? Answer: The vendor shall supply all materials, labor and equipment required to fulfill this request. The machin e will be located approximately 30 ft away from the building utilities. Question 30: Is an adaptation kit including, input drive connection, output load connection and support for the HEMTT transmission (985) required? Answer: Yes <B R>Question 31: Is an adaptation kit including, input drive connection, output load connection and support for the HEMTT Wrecker transmission (M984A1) required? Answer: Yes Question 32: Is an adaptation kit including, input drive connection , output load connection and support for the PLS transmission required? Answer: Yes Question 33: Is an adaptation kit including, input drive connection, output load connection and support for the M88A1 recovery Vehicle transmission requ ired? Answer: Yes Question 34: Is an adaptation kit including, input drive connection, output load connection and support for the M1A1 Abrams tank transmission required? Answer: Yes Question 35: Is an adaptation kit including, i nput drive connection, output load connection and support for the HET (M1070) transmission required? Yes Question 36: What are the defining criteria for the small business set aside? Answer: The contracting officer can choose to issu e a total small business set-aside for an acquisition if there is a reasonable expectation that offers will be obtained from at least two responsible small business concerns. Question 37: If the transmissions are electronically shifted, are we to provide the complete electronic control system for shifting the transmission? Answer: Yes Question 38: Is automated control of the dynamometer system and data acquisition required to be supplied? Yes Question 39: Please id entify either the transmission models or the equipment variants so that all adapter and shifter kits may be competitively quoted. Answer: General Motors THM-400 and 350 Turbo Hydromatic, FMC HS400-3A1, Clark HR28320, HR 18325, and 18340, Caterpillar, Allison AT545, all CD 850-6, all HT 700, all MT 600, TX 100-1 and 1A, X1100-3B, x 200-4, all XT 1410, XTG 411-2A, with the ability to be upgrade d to other transmissions as needed. NOTE: THIS NOTICE WAS NOT POSTED TO FEDBIZOPPS ON THE DATE INDICATED IN THE NOTICE ITSELF (27-DEC-2007); HOWEVER, IT DID APPEAR IN THE FEDBIZOPPS FTP FEED ON THIS DATE. PLEASE CONTACT fbo.support@gsa.gov REGARDING THIS ISSUE.
 

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Place of Performance

Address: ACA, Fort Sill Directorate of Contracting, P.O. Box 33501 Fort Sill OK

Zip Code: 73503-0501

Country: US
 

Record

SN01476904-F 20071229/071227224617 (fbodaily.com)
 

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