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COMMERCE BUSINESS DAILY ISSUE OF OCTOBER 7,1996 PSA#1695NASA Lewis Research Center, 21000 Brookpark Road, Cleveland, Ohio
44135 70 -- ENGINEERING, DESIGN, AND MANUFACTURING SOFTWARE SOL SFO3-057594
POC Linda Kendrick, Contracting Officer, (216) 433-2407, MS 500-309 or
Internet E-Mail: Linda.Kendrick@lerc.nasa.gov. This amendment revises
SFO3-057594 which was posted 9/18/96 as follows: The following
questions have been received in response to Solicitation SFO3-057594.
The identity of the inquirer has been removed from the body of the
individual questions, and has been replaced with the term (Vendor).
QUESTION 1.) (Vendor) has participated in two formal evaluations of
Engineering, Design, and Manufacturing Software at NASA Lewis. In
neither case has our company received a formal debriefing on the
results of these previous tests. Since this solicitation seeks to
purchase the very same tools that we have already competed for, we
request that NASA Lewis issue our company with a formal position on the
findings of these previous evaluations. (ANSWER 1.) It is not uncommon
for government entities, like corporate entities, to investigate a
marketplace before they solidify their requirements. There was an
on-going effort at LeRC, which was described in the SFO as ''extensive
market research'', to thoroughly investigate the currently available
commercial products. During the course of this investigation, various
manufacturers provided information, and that information was retained
and examined by a diverse group of NASA personnel. Since this was a
market research initiative (not a procurement action), there was no
competition, and debriefings (which are part of the procurement
process) were not required. Firms who choose to participate in market
research initiatives must recognize that there is no guarantee that a
procurement, let alone a contract, will ensue as a result of the market
research initiative. The information obtained and generated during the
market research initiative was intended for internal use only. No
formal document was prepared for external distribution. QUESTION 2.)
Since our response will be compared to the ''extensive market
research'' that has been performed on the Unigraphics product, we
request an outline of the type and level of detailed information that
has been gathered in arriving at your current position. (ANSWER 2.)
There will be no comparison of products. The SFO states very clearly
that this is not a sole source. Also, it is not a ''brand name or
equal'' acquisition. The offered products must meet the Manufacturing
Specifications and the Drafting Specifications, and those offered
products that do meet those specifications will then be evaluated in
terms of price and best value (see the ''Best Value Selection'' section
of the SFO). The Unigraphics products are listed only to provide
guidance to prospective offerors of a type of product that is known (as
a result of the market research described in the (ANSWER to Question
#1) to meet all of the specifications. The requested ''outline'' is
outside the scope of this acquisition, and is not needed to respond to
the SFO. QUESTION 3.) The specification (GOVERNMENT NOTE: Actually,
the following is a statement found in the solicitation, not in an
individual specification. The question is mis-phrased, but its meaning
is apparent, so the error does not render the question unanswerable.)
states that ''if other products are selected, then the individual
items/quantities will be determined during negotiations.'' Assuming an
alternate product is selected and offers an equal or higher level of
functionality as your minimum attributes, and that this product is in
general comparable in price, please confirm that the minimum/maximum
quantities and length of contract will not be altered. (ANSWER 3.) See
the ''Best Value Selection'', ''Step Two'' section of the SFO. Also,
the government retains its right to cancel any acquisition at any point
prior to award. QUESTION 4.) Under Manufacturing Specifications, Item
2: Please explain what is meant by ''without regeneration'' and what
functional benefit this attribute provides to NASA Lewis. (ANSWER 4.)
LeRC needs to be able to edit the actual tool path files, as opposed to
changing parameters and regenerating the tool path files. Regeneration
takes time, so the functional benefit is in time savings. QUESTION 5.)
Under Manufacturing Specifications, Item 4: Since most machine tools
are incapable of maintaining data accuracy beyond .000001, why is it
important that NASA Lewis maintain an accuracy of .0000005. Does NASA
Lewis have machine tools that are capable of maintaining this accuracy?
(ANSWER 5.) Yes, LeRC does have such a machine tool, and that is why it
is required that the accuracy be as specified. QUESTION 6.) Under
Manufacturing Specifications, Item 5: Please explain what is meant by
''without redefining'' and what functional benefit this attribute
provides to NASA Lewis. (ANSWER 6.) LeRC does not need to redefine the
mold, LeRC does need to reverse the surface vectors to define the mold
surface. The functional benefit is a time saving in generation of the
mold. QUESTION 7.) Under Drafting Specifications, Item 2: The
specification requires that the products must be able to provide a
drafting interface similar to CADAM. Since this is a competitive
product to all vendors (except CADAM) that would respond to this
solicitation, please explain how other vendors are expected to know and
understand what the CADAM interface looks like. Please provide the
criteria by which a vendor's offering can be measured in this regard.
(ANSWER 7.) CADAM is a product common in the marketplace and incumbent
at NASA LeRC. Other vendors familiar with the marketplace can
reasonably be expected to know and understand what the CADAM interface
looks like. LeRC's market research (see the (ANSWER to Question #1)
indicates that at least two vendors have CADAM-like interfaces. An
offeror may submit product literature that establishes its compliance
with this specification. QUESTION 8.) (Vendor) requests that the
specific evaluation criteria that will be used to determine the
qualitative merit for each specification be provided to all vendors.
Has this criteria been used in performing the ''extensive market
research'' and are those scores available for the selected Unigraphics
product? (ANSWER 8.) The specifications do not allow for ''qualitative
merit'', the offered product either meets all of the specifications, or
it does not meet them. Those products that do meet all of the
specifications are subject to the ''Best Value Selection'' section of
the SFO, which describes the final evaluation process being used for
this acquisition. As indicated in the (ANSWER to Question #1, the
market research process is different from an acquisition process, and
does not ordinarily entail criteria, although it may. The acquisition
process is not constrained by prior market research processes. As to
the availability of information provided to the government during the
market research process, see the (ANSWER to Question #1. Finally, the
reference to a ''selected'' product is inaccurate and misleading: No
product has been selected yet, and no product will be selected until
the evaluation process for this acquisition has been completed.
QUESTION 9.) (Vendor) understands that less than 10% of NASA Lewis's
Engineering, Design and Manufacturing work requires the import of data
from external contractors. If this is an accurate number, please
provide the rationale behind a decision to select and widely implement
an ''interface'' tool for such a small part of the NASA mission.
(ANSWER 9.) LeRC has been designated a Center of Excellence for
Aeropropulsion by the Agency. As such, the exchange of data with
aeropropulsion manufacturers and researchers is a significant part of
LeRC's portion of the NASA mission. QUESTION 10.) The Best Value
Characteristic can only be measured through live tests of all vendors
including Unigraphics. Please describe when and how these tests will be
conducted. (ANSWER 10.) There will be no live tests. LeRC anticipates
that standard product literature will not make false or misleading
claims. LeRC also anticipates that a vendor would be unwilling to
commit to a contract containing hard specifications that its product
cannot meet. QUESTION 11.) (Vendor) maintains that our information
suggests that NASA Lewis does not currently receive 90% of its data in
the Unigraphics format. Please clarify this position and provide a
list of the companies, divisions and volume of parts which currently
comprise this 90% source. Please inform us as to what specific tool in
use at NASA Lewis is used to read the Unigraphics part files that are
received. Please describe in detail what method and format is used to
move this data into the current CADAM tool that is in widespread use
at NASA Lewis. (ANSWER 11.) Amendment #1 issued 9/30/96 changes and
clarifies the data accompanying the Best Value Characteristic, and
makes the requests of sentence #3 and sentence #4 moot. The request for
''a list of companies, divisions and volume of parts'' (sentence #2, 2d
part) is outside the scope of this acquisition, and the information
requested is not needed to respond to the SFO. QUESTION 12.) Please
confirm that NASA Lewis only receives 10% of its data in the IGES
format. Our information suggests that this number is substantially
higher. (ANSWER 12.) Amendment #1 issued 9/30/96 changes and clarifies
the data accompanying the Best Value Characteristic, and makes this
question moot. QUESTION 13.) Based on the details of the value
characteristic, does NASA Lewis maintain that it does not currently
receive any data (0%) from any source in the STEP, DXF, AutoCAD, SDRC
IDEAS, Pro/ENGINEER, CADAM, CATIA, or other CAD formats? (ANSWER 13.)
Amendment #1 issued 9/30/96 changes and clarifies the data accompanying
the Best Value Characteristic. QUESTION 14.) If NASA Lewis maintains
that 90% of its data is currently received in the Unigraphics format,
please explain why all references to this requirement and all benchmark
tests have been omitted by the CAD Study Team without even a reference
to this critical government requirement in the two previous
evaluations over the past year. The CAD Study benchmark required and
tested the import/export of IGES, IDEAS, P3-PATRAN, COSMOS and STEP
files. (ANSWER 14.) Amendment #1 issued 9/30/96 changes and clarifies
the data accompanying the Best Value Characteristic. All references to
the ''CAD study'' and to ''previous evaluations'' are interpreted as
references to the market research initiative, which is discussed in the
(ANSWER to Question #1. Vendors should realize that issues that may
have been of interest during a market research initiative, do not
always remain of interest after the market research effort has yielded
marketplace information. QUESTION 15.) Does NASA Lewis interface and
receive data from any of the other NASA centers? If so, what percentage
of your incoming data comes from these sources and please confirm that
this data is always received in either the Unigraphics or IGES
formats. (ANSWER 15.) Yes, LeRC does interface and receive data from
other NASA Centers, and that data is considered internally-generated
information. The request for data concerning internal data-exchange
between NASA Centers is outside the scope of this acquisition, and the
information requested is not needed to respond to the SFO. QUESTION
16.) Please describe what format is currently used to transfer data to
and from the NASA Lewis support contractor organizations. (ANSWER 16.)
This request is outside the scope of this acquisition, and the
information requested is not needed to respond to the SFO. QUESTION
17.) Since the implementation of the Unigraphics software will require
an additional investment in new hardware, please confirm that NASA
Lewis will consider the hardware costs associated with each offering in
its evaluation. (ANSWER 17.) LeRC as a whole is in the process of
upgrading its hardware. No purchases that are not already planned are
anticipated to result from this software acquisition. QUESTION 18.)
Does NASA Lewis intend to run this software on available PCs at Lewis
under the Windows NT operating system to save hardware costs? If so,
please indicate the number of PCs that would be used and for what
purpose (engineering manufacturing, design, etc.). (ANSWER 18.) Windows
NT will be used to run the software. The request for data on the
''number of PCs'' is outside the scope of this acquisition, and the
information requested is not needed to respond to the SFO. QUESTION
19.) In selecting an Engineering, Design and Manufacturing tool, it is
customary and normal practice to evaluate a systems impact on the
total process that may be affected. In some cases, the impact to the
process may be 10 to 100 times the impact of the initial data transfer.
Please explain why NASA Lewis's mission and budgetary constraints
suggest that these factors should be ignored. (ANSWER 19.) LeRC is
upgrading its infrastructure to meet the needs that will be imposed by
LeRC's role as a Center of Excellence for Aeropropulsion. LeRC has not
ignored this impact, but is in fact dealing with that impact. QUESTION
20.) Given the major focus that NASA is putting on common interfaces
and open industry standards for translation, why is it that NASA Lewis
seeks to purchase and implement a tool based on a proprietary data
format? Why doesn't Lewis select a tool that improves its productivity
and ask the contractors for widely accepted neutral data formats?
(ANSWER 20.) LeRC intends to select the tool that best interfaces with
the industry being served (aerospace engines), in order to more
efficiently and economically work with all the contributors (including
researchers and manufacturers). (NOTE: The Due Date for this
acquisition was extended from October 2nd to October 9, 1996 by
Amendment #1 to this SFO. No further due date extensions are
anticipated. The government believes that this SFO has been publicized
sufficiently, and that any relevant questions from interested offerors
should have been submitted by this date. Unless it necessitates a
significant change to the solicitation, a submittal of future questions
will not be considered a sufficient basis for further extension of the
offer Due Date.) Except as provided herein, all terms and conditions
of this solicitation remain unchanged. Offerors shall acknowledge
receipt of this amendment by (1) identifying the amendment number and
date on the offer submitted, (2) letter, or (3) facsimile. The
Government must receive the acknowledgement by the time specified for
receipt of offers or your offer may not be considered. (0277) Loren Data Corp. http://www.ld.com (SYN# 0266 19961004\70-0001.SOL)
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